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Arab Spring

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Civics Around the World: Arab Spring

 

The Arab Spring has brought changes to governments throughout the Middle East. The people of Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Syria, and Libya are all in different stages of political revolution. Nonetheless, the people in these countries are all demanding changes in their government that will ensure that their natural rights are protected. This is not an idea that is foreign to us here in the United States of America, the Declaration of Independence stated that exact position, 

 

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

As students of civics, we are living at a fortunate moment in time. We can study these revolutions and the modern context to better understand the problems facing OUR founding fathers while witnessing the emergence of THEIR founding fathers.

 

Use the news and buzz to get more information about this phenomena and discuss the topic below. Remember, for a grade you are required to make at least 1 substantive post and 2 substantive replies.

 

Buzz on the Arab Spring 

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When should a people take matters into their own hands and change their government?

 

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Ashley Dibbert said

at 3:55 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with Katie that government will find a reason to make things violent. If the people aren't doing what a government wants them to do, then they'll do whatever they can and use whatever force they believe is necessary to get the country's attention. However, Syria's government has gone too far in torturing and killing it's own people. If it's only kept to nonviolence, then there usually is no clear "winner" whereas in war, there is.

Ashley Dibbert said

at 4:01 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree that the people of Syria cannot do this on their own, their own government officials have turned against them so the people of Syria need some other authority figures to be involved. The government is feeling strong and powerful because of the violence and killing, but if another country gets involved and helps out the people, then it could be a wake up call to the government that they're not as powerful as they thought and need to stop what they're doing. It's not an easy thing to do, they won't just "let" people come in and get rid of the government and change it so things could get even worse and more violent if another country gets involved.

Javier Hernandez said

at 4:02 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree, they should exhaust every peaceful option before fighting since people's lives are lost and usually not much is accomplished

Javier Hernandez said

at 4:06 pm on Oct 25, 2012

That's not always true, look at the civil rights movement in the US, we were depriving people of their rights and they spoke up and things changed. Martin Luther King Jr. always protested peacefully

Sam Rennert said

at 4:16 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I think that people should take control of there government at the first sign of distress. People should not have to wait till the situation multiplies in to something much worse before they start taking control, no government in the world should have to much power that they wont be able to hold on to it. If the citizens start to rebel then the government should lay down there power and give it to the people.

Libby Johnson said

at 6:21 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with Sam that there shouldn't even be a question on if the people should stand for change after more than one instance occurs. In fact, if the government was working properly they would see these instances and want to do something to prevent them, because the responsibility of government is to avoid these type of occurrences.

Monica Beingolea said

at 4:34 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I disagree with this because you can't constantly keep tearing down your government at the first sign of distress. You have to give the government time to fix things, because if you do rebel the first time of distress you'll always have a government in ruins.

Ford Hatchett said

at 4:51 pm on Oct 26, 2012

Sam, I disagree with the point you are trying to make here. If we look at our own country we've had two recent protests/ rebellions: The Occupy Wal Street Movement as well as the Tea Party. Both of these, to different degrees of severiy, were rebellions. Both of these groups have different viewpoints which is why it would be detremental to a country to give up power anytime people would take to the streets in protest.

Kirsten Smothers said

at 6:16 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I disagree, if people try to take control over a little incident, the government and its people will constantly be at war with each other. This would ruin the government because they would never have control over the people if they are constantly rebelling.

Sam Rennert said

at 4:19 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with most of what For said, he said "People should stand up for what they believe in, most of the time." what i don't agree with is the "most of the time". I think that people should stand up for their rights no matter what. Other people need to know what you think, that does't mean keeping some of it to your self.

Brian Giffin said

at 6:59 pm on Oct 26, 2012

Could not agree more with this. Doesn't matter who you are, if someones trying to take your rights, you shouldn't sit and let them. You shouldn't let them take any of your rights, no compromise for those who want to instill fear and control you.

Alyssa Wood said

at 5:06 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I think that people should take control of their government when they are in danger of if they're living in an unsafe environment. If it's not giving it's people what they need or not letting the country have its rights, then the people should definitley do something about it. I agree with Ben, saying that people should think about whether or not overthrowing the government in a violent and costly way will be an effective way to change their country before they actually do something about it.

Libby Johnson said

at 6:22 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with you Alyssa that sometimes violence is needed to make a point clear and often things cant be taken seriously if or the point is not clear if drastic measures aren't taken.

Sam Rennert said

at 8:21 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I kind of agree with you. I think there should be some violence to make a point, but it not good to take it to far.

Ford Hatchett said

at 6:23 pm on Oct 26, 2012

This is a great point Alyssa. I'm totally on board with what you have to say here. People should always weigh the options before acting in any type of violence

Alyssa Wood said

at 5:09 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with Ford because people shouldn't just overthrow their government just because they don't agree with something the government does or says. However, when their rights are being taken away, they should make changes.

Alyssa Wood said

at 5:19 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree that Syria needs the help of our country or other countries in the world. They havent completely fixed the issue on their own, so we should help them take the initiative to make some major changes.

Libby Johnson said

at 6:12 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I think that sometimes a government can be almost blinded by there own power and often are not as greatly affected by a decision that they make as an everyday citizen may be. In this case, i definitely think that the people need to stand up and make a clear point that there needs to be change. Government was originally created by and for the people, so if the people under the government can't stand up and say that they need a change, doesn't that defeat some of the purpose? No matter what, not everyone is going to be perfectly happy with how things work, but if a lot of people stand up, there could be a change.

Madison Choboy said

at 6:29 pm on Oct 25, 2012

Libby that is so true a Government may not realize they are doing something wrong unless someone says something about it. If you don't stand up and say something then number one you will never have your opinion spoken therefore having to live with the way the government has made things even though it may affect you in the wrong way.

Haley Meyer said

at 8:51 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with Libby in the way that government doesn't see how their decisions affect most citizens and usually by the time they do it is to late and that decision has caused something bad to happen. I also agree with the fact that the government is for the people and by the people and that should have a say in their government if they are the one's that are going to have to live with those rules and restrictions for the rest of their lives.

Diamond McNeil said

at 4:42 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I agree with Libby as well on the government being blinded by there own power or else there wouldn't be a problem with the people having to stand up for the government.

Madison Choboy said

at 6:31 pm on Oct 25, 2012

Yes Ford I did mean to say in a bad way sorry for confussion:)

Madison Choboy said

at 6:34 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I also agree with Katie. The government can only take things so far before they get out of hand therefore making things unfair which practically in itself gives the people the right to stand up for themselves and make a change. Sorry I didn't exactly know how to word that so if its confusing sorry :)

Macon Funderburk said

at 7:15 pm on Oct 25, 2012

People should take matters into their own hands when the govenment stops protecting their natural rights. Once this happens, then the people have the right to overthrow the government in a calm and orderly way. These people in Syria are not recieving the protection that they are entitled to. Threfore, the best decision for them is to try and revolt against their govenment in a peaceful and civil way. If they do not get what they need from revolting this way, then they may eventually need to resort to harsher methods of revolution, like war or a riot.

Haley Meyer said

at 8:48 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I completely agree with Macon, citizens in every country not just Syria deserve to have the protection they need to live day to day. Also I agree that the people of that country have the right to overthrow their government if they believe it is necessary for their safety.

Diamond McNeil said

at 4:39 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I do agree as well with Macon on how people should take the responsibility in the government when it stops protecting the natural rights.

Macon Funderburk said

at 7:18 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with you that the people have the right to take action. After all, the peoples cooperation is the foundation for a balanced and sucessful govenment, andthey have the right to make sure the govenment is treating them fairly.

Macon Funderburk said

at 7:21 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with you that the people must take the consequencces of what happens to them after they take action against the govenment. A good govenment would reactly responcibly and calmy, but a bad govenment could respond with more unfairness.

Alec Sauls said

at 7:31 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree with Ford that a person should not get in trouble with the federal government for speaking their mind because in the Constitution we are given the freedom of speech. I also think that your freedom of speech rights are limited because you don't have the right to publicly speak against the government.

Haley Meyer said

at 8:45 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I believe that people have the right to take matters into their own hands when it comes to their government becoming corrupt. I mean who wants to live in a country when the government is not stable ans is partially taking away rights of their citizens. The government should be helping people feel safe and not make them feel scared to wake up in the morning and not know what is going to happen in their countries government and if it is going to change their lives. People need to speak up if they believe their government is doing something wrong so they can fix it.

Kasey Baker said

at 9:57 pm on Oct 25, 2012

I agree. Like Morgan said, they most likely already tried a peaceful approach in trying to change their government, but it hasn't worked. If the government is resorting to violence, they definitely won't listen to anything peaceful. Sometimes you have to do something drastic to get the government to notice. Everyone has the right to a good life and if the government Isn't allowing that, then it's time for a change.

Grace Frost said

at 12:46 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I completely agree with Haley. If someone feels that the government is doing something wrong, a citizen has an absolute right to do something about it or take it into their own hands.

Grace Frost said

at 12:51 pm on Oct 26, 2012

Sorry I am so late, but I also agree with Libby about how the government can be blinded by its own power. Maybe they think that they're so right about everything decision they make that they don't realize how many people are going through financial problems or not being able to support their own family. Their are so many people losing their jobs and not being able to get another job for a long time. Families and people around the US need help and the government seems to not be doing anything about this.

Grace Frost said

at 12:52 pm on Oct 26, 2012

And if it really takes people in the US taking this into their own hands and that's one of the only ways to fix, what's the problem with that?

Monica Beingolea said

at 4:51 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I agree with this because if government isn't doing their job and taking care of their responsibilities, then the people have the right to get upset and want to change things. The government is supposed to provide with us a safe and secure feeling. When the people in Libya saw that the people of Egypt were able to successfully take control of their government they decided to rise up.

Kirsten Smothers said

at 6:21 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I believe that people should take matters into their own hands when the government is harming the people, or if the government is not doing their job and leaving the people unprotected. The job of the government is to protect the people, and without a proper government the people will be unsafe. Citizens have the right to change the government if they are living in constant fear of their lives, because that proves that the government is not doing the job that it was made to do.

Kirsten Smothers said

at 6:24 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I agree, people should not be affected in a bad way by their government, because that is not why the government was originally created. The government should put the minds of citizens at peace, not cause them to suffer or live in fear.

Ford Hatchett said

at 6:31 pm on Oct 26, 2012

People should take matters into their own hands when the government has pushed them to their breaking point. whether this is by invading citizen's privacy, taking away their basic liberties, or physically harming citizens does not matter. Once a government has pushed you to your limits you must respond. Violence should be the last resort in solving this response. All peaceful options should be explored before violence is ever an option. Sometimes peaceful attempts will be tried and failed leaving violence as the only option, but every situation is different and no two should be treated in the exact same way.

Brian Giffin said

at 6:53 pm on Oct 26, 2012

I've read about peaceful attempts in Syria/Libya/Egypt that ended in people being injured. When a country takes their rights forcefully and then puts them under martial law while massacring villages, peace won't happen. "Revolution is not a tea party" - Mao Zedong

Brian Giffin said

at 6:57 pm on Oct 26, 2012

In my eyes, people should take action when the government refuses to respond and/or is corrupt. At that moment, the people need to push for a new government. The only way they will get a new government is by support from the UN, which they should really be doing more besides slapping Syria on the wrist. They should be doing what they did with Libya and Egypt and start supplying the rebels so they can successfully form a new government.

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